1. it’s a “choice”
2. they’re all whores
3. always after ‘straight’ guys
4. incapable of stable, long-term relationships
5. try to ‘recruit’ younger people
6. they’re all pedophiles
- NONE of these things are true !
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Amen!
I don’t believe the first one. I think there is an element of choice earlier on for some, I don’t believe that we can blanket all gays saying they were all born that way. I’d like to see the facts and research that back up such a statement.
I’ve certainly never met every gay person on the planet, but I’ve met a few. And I’ve yet to meet one that says they “chose” to be gay. I’ve not even seen any in the media make that claim, have you?
seriously, why would anyone CHOOSE to be gay – that would be rare
No I haven’t. But I am sure it is not 100%. I think that a lot of this argument has to do of whether or not other straight people can prevent the “creation” of gays which leads gay activist groups to respond by saying 100% are born that way. A defense mechanism, not the truth. Fundamentally I believe there is an element of concious thought that goes into choosing what to like early in life.
I’d argue that a lot of what we become is based on how we grow up and that environment. I think it is defijnitely more complex than a simple cookie cutter explanation of being born that way.
perhaps you’re thinking of the fact that most people are basically bi-sexual and at some time in their lives choose to have same-sex relations
refer to Kinsey Report
The Kinsey scale, extending from the totally straight to the totally gay by way of varying degrees of bisexuality, seems to cover all conditions.
[sarcasm on] Yea! OF COURSE I chose to be a pariah, hated and despised by my family and denigrated by the church I grew up in! i decided at as young as age 3 that it would be a BLAST to be hated by everyone I grew up with and loved! [sarcasm off]
OH PLUEEESE! In my VERY long and VERY gay life I’ve NEVER met ANYONE who “chose” to be gay and I defy ANYONE to show me ANYONE (without some SERIOUS pathology) who can honestly say they did!
I didn’t mean choice as in today I’ll be gay tomorrow I’l be straight or anything like that I mean that being gay isn’t something that is determined at birth. People decide later in life due to environmental factors, the fact that someone might not remember their decision isn’t surprising seeing as we don’t remember a lot from earlier in life.
I am also not infering that someone makes a choice like the ones we make in later life. For example it’s not like choosing between apples and oranges, we decide based on what is given to us.
I refuse to take any sort of hostile approach to this discussion.
No thanks to an accident at age 3 that left me in a so called “vegetative state” (I was full conscious but unable to respond to stimuli in any way) for several months while my brain healed I have strong memories going back to infancy… thinking back and remembering my life to that time was my sole entertainment. I also developed an eidetic memory… I’m cursed with remembering EVERYTHING!
NEVER did I make ANY sort of a “choice” to be gay. I DO know that at age 3 when I began to realize that there was a difference between boys and girls that I had NO interest in boys. These feelings only became stronger at puberty. Oh I tried being straight being a child of the late 50′s and 80′s… but it ALWAYS was WRONG, COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY WRONG! For me sex with a man makes physically ill! I suppose it feels to me what gay sex must feel like to totally straight woman. Now, if you can’t get THAT through your head… that it was NOT a choice in ANY appreciable or meaningful way… then I cannot fathom WHAT you could mean by “choice”!
What I said could have been misleading. But what I mean is that there simply can’t be this overarching 100% “born this way” idea as fact.
This may be you but it is not everyone. We do not live in a world where some are born gay and some are born straight and no one ever crosses the line. Some either decide to be gay or are manipulated into the lifestyle, just as it works the other way.
Such statements of 100% of gays being “born that way” are very simillar to the 100% of gay men being feminen, that’s not true but it took a long time for people to begin beleiving in that!
Sorry about the typos.